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Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.23 00:01:00 - [1] Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! Still waiting... EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.23 21:14:00 - [2] Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! No email. lalalala EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.23 21:37:00 - [3] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Kouryusei Beta testers, look forward to an email today :)! No email. lalalala Until I am 100% satisfied with the product, it will not be sent out; I have also been receiving new feature requests on a daily basis - which I am implementing prior to beta testing. This is the way I develop, and it has never failed me in the past. :) A couple of people experienced in software stress testing have received an early alpha, as well as a developer who wanted the cache reader API. I thought Beta meant unfinished product. Can you tell them post their comments here on first impressions to tease us? pleaseeee EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.23 22:23:00 - [4] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 23/05/2009 22:12:47 Originally by: Kouryusei The people currently tinkering with the tool itself are solely tasked with stress testing the product. You'll have your own first impression soon enough, be patient. :) Can you ask them to post here please? It would be quite lame for them to test EVE related software without having access to Eve themselves. That would be nice. EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.24 14:47:00 - [5] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha @Above Beta = software almost ready to ship, only lacking of the final "polish". The software Kouryusei is making, by his own words is far from beta. As you might have noticed, instead, you'll probably tried several software in the past with the "beta" label but that were complete crap. Beta is the "noob on the road" term used by semi-incompetent or "too smart" companies to raise expectations about software effectively still in deep development phase, usually to get undue / earlier funding. Alpha = software with most functionality but not all (ie some buttons / menu are not even still implemented) that will usually break if you stress / monkey test them. Often this is what is optimistically called "Closed beta" by MMO companies. Pre-alpha = software barely out of development status, very easy to crash / still requiring manual input where the final product will be automated, or only accepting i.e. a certain file instead of an user freely chosen input file and so on. I guesstimate the software proposed is in pre-alpha at best, expecially considering the need to setup a remote server. I also guesstimate, by having developed some business software, that it will take weeks to see a semi-working application. If that were the case why he would say the following? Quote: Release Date Closed Beta: 18th May 2009. Open Beta: 23rd May 2009. Public Release: 30th May 2009. Specially when that was said on 2009.05.16 two days before releasing beta day. I don't think so, saying that he'll release the beta in two days with a software that "will take weeks to see a semi-working application"? I don't think so. Maybe he is a perfectionist or, god forbid it, is a scammer, I don't know, but surely you don't have a barely developed software out there. @Kour: What means SVN, ISV, CCNP and MCSE? I have no idea about the meaning of that acronyms, maybe because I'm not english, do you live on the islands (aka UK)? EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.25 11:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Kouryusei The product is now almost ready to move out of alpha, the majority of errors have now been fixed, and very few minor errors now remain. I'll be tackling those today, and doing a final round of "oh ****" testing. :) \o/ EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.05.26 07:12:00 - [7] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Quote: Maybe he is a perfectionist or, god forbid it, is a scammer, I don't know, but surely you don't have a barely developed software out there. I never implied he's a scammer. There's enough in MD that believe everyone is a scammer already, no need to add to the choir. I just read Remote. "In remote mode, intraPAY runs on well... one of my many, many servers. The server in question is currently being built." Now, if the server is not completely trivial, it leads to believe it won't be ready so soon. (I consider "the software" as the sum of its parts, including the server). The server segment is one of the more trivial parts. :) I did not say you were implying that, just that there is no way for him to announce inminent release being at the state you claim, I have very very little experience with programing (I have even forgotten the few I learned), but logic brings to my mind only that two possible reasons given the situation(actually three, but I think we can discard him being a moron :). I think the scam is unlikely at this point, but that posibility combined with the poor management of critics and lack of experience and skills saw on the audit made me cancel my share reservation on his business aiming for a win/win situation. I'm glad to confirm from kour that the software is not that undeveloped, I expected no other answer :).
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.14 14:31:00 - [8] Originally by: Mordozan Interesting :) It was... now kour mail rejects the mails, I wouldn't count much on this being released. EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.14 17:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Mordozan Interesting :) It was... now kour mail rejects the mails, I wouldn't count much on this being released. Try emailing me on the Gmail adddress listed in the first post of the thread, the server that hosts the mail for Intrapay died and I've had to ship a new one out. :) I just wanted some news on the proyect,is it still alive? The beta was supposed to come one month ago.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.14 19:25:00 - [10] Originally by: Kouryusei It is indeed still alive, I've had my time taken up lately due to the fact that my child was born close to 2 months prematurely. :) Glad to hear that. I didn't read about your son, Congrats! Btw, now CONCORD is after me, because of this reply: Quote: Pyramid quoting (quoting more than 4 people recursively) is not allowed, please remove some of the quotes and try again! CONCORD has been notified
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.15 10:45:00 - [11] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 15/06/2009 10:36:33 Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Mordozan Interesting :) It was... now kour mail rejects the mails, I wouldn't count much on this being released. Your logic is sound, that's precisely the reason why it will not be released. JESUS! Nah... logic fails there. It is just that I desperately want my hands on that tool since announced and I lose my hope from time to time seeing that time goes by and nothing new is known. I use to fail specially when I have too much hours without sleeping on my back.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.16 17:56:00 - [12] Originally by: Kouryusei A limited number of users received the tool last night, the remainder will receive it in the morning. weeeeeeeee \o/ EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.17 19:16:00 - [13] Originally by: YouGotRipped Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 16/06/2009 18:34:50 Originally by: Kouryusei A limited number of users received the tool last night, the remainder will receive it in the morning. weeeeeeeee \o/ (Looks like I'm not in the first bunch :( I waaaaaant!) My bet is on: Feedback revealed some rather nasty stability issues, going back to the drawing board for the rest of eternity. But anything will do... Go back to your hole! Bad scammer... bad scammer... XD
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.18 07:42:00 - [14] Originally by: YouGotRipped Save your energy for later, you'll need it to kiss my feet. You made me laugh, thanks. I don't see why would I do such thing, did you think I was defending the OP? I'll wait and see what happens, almost two days since "the remainder will receive it in the morning". But we'll wait a little more, since we don't want him to keep the tool for personal use forced by people who don't believe in him, do we? Some words seem to have such behaviours on some people XD. As long as he don't ask for more money there is no reason for him to maintain any charade. EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.19 12:14:00 - [15] Originally by: Kouryusei Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 19/06/2009 07:44:58 Originally by: Kouryusei I have to pop out for a few hours now (hospital), I'd completely forgotten. To update quickly, the final remote version is currently uploading; and will be open to the public today. Hospital? Hold on there buddy, I didn't know it was that serious, your health should always come first. So if you don't upload it today, never sounds as good as any. I'll be quite blunt here, don't make a joke about anything hospital related in this thread (it's not my health, it's that of my child). Anyway, back to the news! Sorry about the slight delay, uploading lots of data over a HSPDA modem = meh. It's all uploaded now, so keep checking on intrapay.co.uk throughout the day (I be tweaking). :) It doesn't works at the moment :( Where is the local mode download? EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.21 20:31:00 - [16] Not working EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 11:26:00 - [17] Still no coments/answers on this? Originally by: Kourusei Originally by: Ji Sama well sorry for being a douchebag then :( You're not a douche, evemail me if you want the internal intrapay url. How is it going Ji? Any comments on the tool? EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 11:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Ji Sama no comments sorry.. What means that? Why not?
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 16:58:00 - [19] Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 26/06/2009 15:11:08 Originally by: Krathos Morpheus Originally by: Ji Sama no comments sorry.. What means that? Why not? Nevermind. ? EVE Knowledge
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:12:00 - [20] Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 26/06/2009 21:12:38 Originally by: YouGotRipped Linky Interesting link. I am above average acording to that test, but english is not my language and I passed more time translating and understanding the questions than answering them, some of them I didn't even answered because I've learned most of my english from reading more than studying and some words I didn't knew the meaning. Next time post something relevant. Now, I would like Ji to say if he has received the secret url and why he don't want to make comments if he has. Maybe you don't mind, but I'm interested.
Krathos Morpheus Gallente Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.06.26 21:42:00 - [21] Edited by: Krathos Morpheus on 26/06/2009 21:42:22 Originally by: Eiroze Or maybe I've been too busy to logon to EVE and check my mail to see if he's messaged me? :) mmm... I just asked for clarification, I really didn't translate no comments as no answer received. What about my request to try it? Are you going to keep it away from public? I answered to your insinuations to keep it that way in the bitter sea thread and I would like to see what do you think about it, thanks.

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